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<p>Ukraine, say, accepts Russian sovereignty over Crimea and parts of the Donbas. In turn, Putin accepts Ukrainian independence and its right to deepen ties with Europe. But it is not beyond the realms of plausibility that such a scenario could emerge from the wreckage of a bloody conflict.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The bill, which will funnel support to Ukraine for about the next five months, includes some $6bn budgeted for armoured vehicles and air defences.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>It would also leave NATO and Russia in a state of military confrontation like the Cold War.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>A year ago, most everyone expected Russia to dominate the skies with its much larger and more modern air force.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>Though recorded in 21st-century fashion through up-close-and-personal shots from mobile phone cameras and high-definition drone footage, the images being captured – of artillery duels and trench warfare – have a distinctly last-century feel to them. All one can say is that intense diplomatic activity can generate its own dynamic and could be a feature of 2024 largely absent from 2023. After a year in which both sides looked forward to military advances and were disappointed, this new year starts with expectations so low that the only way we can possibly be surprised is by developments that get us closer to a resolution. By the end of July there was no point in pretending that all was going well. One problem is it leads to playing down the benefits the US has always got in its conventional operations from superior firepower. As we learnt more it also became apparent that the demands of close coordination of complex operations in tough conditions were beyond fresh units that had not quite enough training.</p><br /><br /><h2>When will it be over? What's it going to take to get Russia out of Ukraine? — Sam</h2><br /><br /><p>The United States and its strategic partners clearly face major challenges in doing so. As noted earlier, Russia and Ukraine are both preparing for another major period of actual conflict, and neither is even rumored to be seeking a peaceful outcome on terms the other side can accept. Russia seems committed to seizing more of Eastern Ukraine as well as to keeping the territory it seized in 2014. Russia has established a pattern of missile strikes and other forms of warfare that affect every aspect of civil life in Ukraine. At a minimum, even the most courageous and unified people will need the kind of U.S. and allied grand strategy that provides clear guarantees that the necessary military and civil aid will keep coming.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>It would show that the West is committed to creating a more stable and peaceful relationship with Russia, effectively seizing the high moral ground. The current U.S. and European focus on war to the near exclusion of peace fails to do this. There is no question that the current state of the war is scarcely favorable to negotiating a serious and lasting peace or a major improvement in U.S. and European relations. This does not mean, however, that the United States and its European allies do not start now to work for the kind of settlement that might lead to real peace. It has called for a return or recovery of all its territory, and for reparations and war crimes trials for what Ukrainian claims in January 2023 already indicated could exceed 60,000 cases. None of these Ukrainian demands may prove to be practical even with a massive level of continuing outside aid to Ukraine.</p><br /><br /><p>Military moves would start to be judged by how they affected prospective talks. Even if there was a sudden interest in peace negotiations these could well be played for time and propaganda effect without much expectation that they would lead to an agreement. The election is so obviously rigged that it is hard for outsider observers to take it seriously as a landmark date. [https://pastelink.net/submit https://pastelink.net/submit] would no doubt like some tangible victory before then – say the capture of all the Donbas that would allow him to argue that core objectives have been met. If there has not been any progress then at least he should take stock. The winter will be over and he can see what territory, if any, has been taken.</p><br /><br /><h3>What do the Ukrainian people want the world to know besides their need for our support and military aid? — Erik</h3><br /><br /><p>The West needs to clearly recognize that one key element of an effective grand strategy is to support Ukraine with the aid it needs for as long as it takes. Today, focusing on the short-term aspect of the fighting, and on Ukraine’s near-term military needs, has created a growing risk that legislature and public opinion will cut aid to levels Ukraine cannot survive. There is currently no way to predict when and how the war between Russia and Ukraine—which has become a proxy war involving the U.S. and its strategic partners – will end. Ukraine has not sustained its counteroffensives against Russia and has made some gains in the recent fighting. More importantly, Ukraine has not recovered most of the territory it lost in 2022, and Putin’s Russia is conducting a major military build-up. The result is that Ukraine now faces a bitter war of attrition against steadily growing Russian forces, facing ongoing missile and air attacks on Ukraine’s military and civilian infrastructure as Russia seeks to win through superior mass.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>"Unfortunately, there is a very real chance that the Russo-Ukraine war will last well into 2024 and possibly beyond," he said. The Republican primary front runner has been announced by Kremlin propagandists as Moscow's favored White House resident-in-waiting, not just because of his railing against congressional support for Ukraine. Trump also described Putin as "very smart" following the full-scale invasion and has rejected U.S. intelligence assessments that Putin had interfered on his behalf in the 2016 election.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>And, surprisingly, Russian and Ukrainian officials have met for talks on the border with Belarus. But, by agreeing to the talks, Putin seems to at least have accepted the possibility of a negotiated ceasefire. Ukraine will do all it can to keep pressure on the Russians there to make it untenable for the Russian navy in Sevastopol, the handful of air force bases there and their logistics base at Dzankoy.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>There is also the extremely tricky issue of mobilisation which is now being addressed but requires up to 500,000 recruits.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>For a year several NATO countries wanted to provide US-made Abrams tanks but Washington would not approve.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>It would make success dependent on events we cannot predict or control, including on the outcome of elections in Western countries, including the United States.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>So, in recent years, Ukrainians have reached further into their history to argue that Ukrainian independence existed before the fall of the Soviet Union, or even the Russian Empire before it.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>With Western hesitancy bolstering Russia, and in the absence of either a coup or a health-related issue leading to Putin's demise, the only foreseeable outcome will be a negotiated settlement that for now both sides continue to refuse. For democracies, long-term consensus in support for war has always been more complicated than for autocrats with no accountability. We asked three military analysts how they think events may unfold in the coming 12 months.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>But even if the offensive had made more progress it would have been a tall order to put the Russians sufficiently in a corner that their choice was only between battlefield humiliation and a negotiated withdrawal. We also need to keep in mind that there have been some successes, including pushing back the Black Sea Fleet through the effective use of naval drones. The bigger question was whether the crisis would destabilise the regime.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Furthermore the battles in the Donbas against the Russians, including for Bakhmut (which was eventually taken in June) had come at a high cost, with many experienced soldiers lost in the fight. The debates still rages about whether an earlier tactical withdrawal from Bakhmut would have made sense. One reason why the effects may be contained might be the speed with which the crisis came and went. This was at the dog end of the costly and unimpressive Russian offensives of the first part of the year.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The United States has already done much in working with its partners to support Ukraine and check Putin.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>It has a homegrown war machine and enormous reserves of manpower and resources, and Morris believes there is a good chance Russia can sustain the conflict for years to come.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>And Ukrainians were putting a priority on liberating territory and that required a land offensive in some shape or form.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>More broadly, the war had exhibited many traits that were familiar to theorists of war.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Meanwhile, Ukraine had to pretty much start from scratch, establishing its own treaties and erecting embassies for the first time without approval from Moscow.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>And even though the fall of the Soviet Union was notable for its lack of bloodshed, many in Ukraine refer to today's conflict as a true "war of independence." The U.S. Congress approved four separate spending bills for Ukraine in the past year totaling $112 billion. The rest is funding the Ukrainian government (this helps pay the salaries of Ukrainian government workers) and humanitarian aid to help the millions of Ukrainians who have been driven from their homes. Putin illegally annexed four territories from Ukraine in September and now presents Ukraine's efforts — backed by the West — to take back its own territory as a fascist attack on the Russian homeland. As such, many Ukrainians are against the war, with "no war" becoming a common slogan.</p>
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<p>During President Putin's marathon state address on Feb. 21, he accused Western countries of attempting "to deprive Russia of these historical territories that are now called Ukraine," making war the only way to "protect the people in our historical lands." All these measures were approved when both the House and the Senate were controlled by Democrats. Some Republicans are saying the U.S. should stop funding Ukraine. Democrats in Congress overwhelmingly support aid for Ukraine, and most Republicans do as well. "We want peace around the world," 70-year-old Kyiv resident Nina Albul recently told my colleague Hanna Palamarenko, "but we also want the world to know that it's okay for enslaved people to fight back." According to a poll by the independent Razumkov Centre, a majority of Ukrainians said they believe Ukraine is "heading in the right direction" in light of the war.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Chancellor Olaf Scholz also recently authorized supplying infantry fighting vehicles to help push Russian forces out of occupied Ukraine.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Conscription requires young men and women to serve for a limited time in uniform.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Third, since there are not free and fair elections, there is no way other than mass mobilisation and revolution for the Russian people to overthrow Putin.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The US inflation rate, at 8.6 percent last month, is the highest in 40 years, while the Congressional Budget Office has revised estimates of economic growth—3.1 percent this year— down to 2.2 percent for 2023 and 1.5 percent for 2024.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>What happens on the battlefield becomes ultimately only the symptom of that struggle.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>Emory University’s Reiter listed two main reasons for the lack of appetite in Ukraine for any negotiations that would mean accepting the loss of territory. “The war has been so absolutely brutal that they’re fearful of what will happen in territories handed over to Russia,” he said. Unlike in the case of Serbia, experts do not foresee a scenario in which the US-led Western alliance would actively attack Russia. Despite Ukraine’s gains against Russia, experts believe a frozen conflict or painful truce is most likely. While the deal is essential for Ukraine’s economy, it is also beneficial for Russia – so it’s not simply an olive branch from the Kremlin.</p><br /><br /><h2>Why is the Russian air force not more involved in the war? I rarely see any news regarding Russian strikes from the air. — Matt</h2><br /><br /><p>And bit by bit, Russia’s advantages—shorter supply lines, terrain better suited to armored warfare, and an overwhelming advantage in armaments, especially artillery—started paying off. Most ominously, its troops began encircling a large portion of Ukraine’s battle-tested, best-trained forces in Donbas where besieged towns like Sievierodonetsk, Lysychansk, Lyman, and Popasna suddenly hit the headlines. Still, the botched northern campaign and the serial failures of a military that had been infused with vast sums of money and supposedly subjected to widespread modernization and reform was stunning.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>But even if this occurs, that doesn’t mean the war itself will end with Putin’s downfall.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>"But if Central/Eastern Europe felt abandoned by those powers, it's not hard to imagine a Polish or even a Ukrainian nuclear programme."</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Shortly before Russia invaded last February, less than a third of Ukrainians supported foreign boots on the ground in Ukraine.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>But polls show that does not equal pacifism, with the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians supporting a prolonged defensive war.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>A Ukrainian victory means different things to different people. To [https://rentry.co/9gktmtve https://rentry.co/9gktmtve] is pushing Russia back to the territories it controlled before the start of the invasion; for others it’s about pushing it back to the pre-2014 borders, before Russia annexed Crimea. On the one hand, the Russian invasion has “essentially stalled,” in the words of U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, and has so far failed to fulfill any of President Vladimir Putin’s major objectives. But on the other, having lost more than 7,000 of his troops, according to the U.S. government, Putin may decide to escalate his bombing campaign, which has already left parts of Ukraine in ruin and, at a conservative estimate, more than 900 civilians dead.</p><br /><br /><h3>About Sky News</h3><br /><br /><p>A prominent war expert says the US is on the verge of lessening its support for, or even withdrawing from, NATO - with potentially catastrophic consequences for Europe. "The document referred to in the Financial Times article is a background note written by the secretariat of the council under its own responsibility which describes the current status of the Hungarian economy," the statement by the senior EU official said. A senior European Union official has denied member states are discussing financial coercion to force Hungary to agree on financing for Ukraine. Instead, he argued, there could be more “hybrid strikes” or “hybrid cyber-attacks” outside of Ukraine. But as the fighting goes on, that idea is progressively seeming less likely, despite what Droin calls “miscalculations,” such as a missile hitting Poland in November.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Ukraine's defensive forces transform into an effective insurgency, well-motivated and supported by local populations. And then, perhaps after many years, with maybe new leadership in Moscow, Russian forces eventually leave Ukraine, bowed and bloodied, just as their predecessors left Afghanistan in 1989 after a decade fighting Islamist insurgents. Earlier this month, its civil defence minister told a defence conference "there could be a war in Sweden".</p><br /><br /><h3>How will Russia's war with Ukraine end? Here are 5 possible outcomes</h3><br /><br /><p>The news from the battlefield, the diplomatic noises off, the emotion of the grieving and displaced; all of this can be overwhelming. So let us step back for a moment and consider how the conflict in Ukraine might play out. What are some of the possible scenarios that politicians and military planners are examining? Few can predict the future with confidence, but here are some potential outcomes.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>I spoke to Guardian foreign correspondent Luke Harding in Ukraine about the current situation and what to expect from the coming months. Beyond the obvious dangers of a nuclear plant being shelled, there is also anxiety that Russia is trying to connect the facility to the grid in Crimea. If this happens, it’ll be the first time that one country has stolen a nuclear reactor from another. The war has already become very costly for the oligarchs and these costs will only increase with time. When a sufficient number of Putin’s coalition privately turn against the war, this will pressure Putin to end the war or risk his position of power.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Ukraine, say, accepts Russian sovereignty over Crimea and parts of the Donbas. In turn, Putin accepts Ukrainian independence and its right to deepen ties with Europe. But it is not beyond the realms of plausibility that such a scenario could emerge from the wreckage of a bloody conflict. Perhaps more likely is that this develops into a protracted war.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Most U.S. training takes place at U.S. military bases in Germany. Ukrainian replacement troops go through combat training on Feb. 24 in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine. And even though the fall of the Soviet Union was notable for its lack of bloodshed, many in Ukraine refer to today's conflict as a true "war of independence." The U.S. Congress approved four separate spending bills for Ukraine in the past year totaling $112 billion. The rest is funding the Ukrainian government (this helps pay the salaries of Ukrainian government workers) and humanitarian aid to help the millions of Ukrainians who have been driven from their homes.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>What are some of the possible scenarios that politicians and military planners are examining?</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>If he was, perhaps, facing defeat in Ukraine, he might be tempted to escalate further.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>At this point, Russia could call for a ceasefire to retain what it has, and run a defensive campaign to consolidate its battered military.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Almost three months on, the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>In explaining why, Reiter pointed to “the heavy diplomatic costs of [Russia] using nuclear weapons, the lack of military utility of using nuclear weapons,” and the risk that such use would “increase NATO military involvement” in the war.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>Still, Russia and Ukraine have now been fighting for more than three months. Both have suffered heavy losses and each knows that the war could drag on for years at a staggering cost without either achieving its aims. The Russian president does control additional chunks of Ukrainian territory, but he may hope to find some way of easing Western sanctions and also avoiding being wholly dependent on China.</p>

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During President Putin's marathon state address on Feb. 21, he accused Western countries of attempting "to deprive Russia of these historical territories that are now called Ukraine," making war the only way to "protect the people in our historical lands." All these measures were approved when both the House and the Senate were controlled by Democrats. Some Republicans are saying the U.S. should stop funding Ukraine. Democrats in Congress overwhelmingly support aid for Ukraine, and most Republicans do as well. "We want peace around the world," 70-year-old Kyiv resident Nina Albul recently told my colleague Hanna Palamarenko, "but we also want the world to know that it's okay for enslaved people to fight back." According to a poll by the independent Razumkov Centre, a majority of Ukrainians said they believe Ukraine is "heading in the right direction" in light of the war.











  • Chancellor Olaf Scholz also recently authorized supplying infantry fighting vehicles to help push Russian forces out of occupied Ukraine.








  • Conscription requires young men and women to serve for a limited time in uniform.








  • Third, since there are not free and fair elections, there is no way other than mass mobilisation and revolution for the Russian people to overthrow Putin.








  • The US inflation rate, at 8.6 percent last month, is the highest in 40 years, while the Congressional Budget Office has revised estimates of economic growth—3.1 percent this year— down to 2.2 percent for 2023 and 1.5 percent for 2024.








  • What happens on the battlefield becomes ultimately only the symptom of that struggle.










Emory University’s Reiter listed two main reasons for the lack of appetite in Ukraine for any negotiations that would mean accepting the loss of territory. “The war has been so absolutely brutal that they’re fearful of what will happen in territories handed over to Russia,” he said. Unlike in the case of Serbia, experts do not foresee a scenario in which the US-led Western alliance would actively attack Russia. Despite Ukraine’s gains against Russia, experts believe a frozen conflict or painful truce is most likely. While the deal is essential for Ukraine’s economy, it is also beneficial for Russia – so it’s not simply an olive branch from the Kremlin.



Why is the Russian air force not more involved in the war? I rarely see any news regarding Russian strikes from the air. — Matt



And bit by bit, Russia’s advantages—shorter supply lines, terrain better suited to armored warfare, and an overwhelming advantage in armaments, especially artillery—started paying off. Most ominously, its troops began encircling a large portion of Ukraine’s battle-tested, best-trained forces in Donbas where besieged towns like Sievierodonetsk, Lysychansk, Lyman, and Popasna suddenly hit the headlines. Still, the botched northern campaign and the serial failures of a military that had been infused with vast sums of money and supposedly subjected to widespread modernization and reform was stunning.











  • But even if this occurs, that doesn’t mean the war itself will end with Putin’s downfall.








  • "But if Central/Eastern Europe felt abandoned by those powers, it's not hard to imagine a Polish or even a Ukrainian nuclear programme."








  • Shortly before Russia invaded last February, less than a third of Ukrainians supported foreign boots on the ground in Ukraine.








  • But polls show that does not equal pacifism, with the overwhelming majority of Ukrainians supporting a prolonged defensive war.










A Ukrainian victory means different things to different people. To https://rentry.co/9gktmtve is pushing Russia back to the territories it controlled before the start of the invasion; for others it’s about pushing it back to the pre-2014 borders, before Russia annexed Crimea. On the one hand, the Russian invasion has “essentially stalled,” in the words of U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, and has so far failed to fulfill any of President Vladimir Putin’s major objectives. But on the other, having lost more than 7,000 of his troops, according to the U.S. government, Putin may decide to escalate his bombing campaign, which has already left parts of Ukraine in ruin and, at a conservative estimate, more than 900 civilians dead.



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A prominent war expert says the US is on the verge of lessening its support for, or even withdrawing from, NATO - with potentially catastrophic consequences for Europe. "The document referred to in the Financial Times article is a background note written by the secretariat of the council under its own responsibility which describes the current status of the Hungarian economy," the statement by the senior EU official said. A senior European Union official has denied member states are discussing financial coercion to force Hungary to agree on financing for Ukraine. Instead, he argued, there could be more “hybrid strikes” or “hybrid cyber-attacks” outside of Ukraine. But as the fighting goes on, that idea is progressively seeming less likely, despite what Droin calls “miscalculations,” such as a missile hitting Poland in November.





Ukraine's defensive forces transform into an effective insurgency, well-motivated and supported by local populations. And then, perhaps after many years, with maybe new leadership in Moscow, Russian forces eventually leave Ukraine, bowed and bloodied, just as their predecessors left Afghanistan in 1989 after a decade fighting Islamist insurgents. Earlier this month, its civil defence minister told a defence conference "there could be a war in Sweden".



How will Russia's war with Ukraine end? Here are 5 possible outcomes



The news from the battlefield, the diplomatic noises off, the emotion of the grieving and displaced; all of this can be overwhelming. So let us step back for a moment and consider how the conflict in Ukraine might play out. What are some of the possible scenarios that politicians and military planners are examining? Few can predict the future with confidence, but here are some potential outcomes.







I spoke to Guardian foreign correspondent Luke Harding in Ukraine about the current situation and what to expect from the coming months. Beyond the obvious dangers of a nuclear plant being shelled, there is also anxiety that Russia is trying to connect the facility to the grid in Crimea. If this happens, it’ll be the first time that one country has stolen a nuclear reactor from another. The war has already become very costly for the oligarchs and these costs will only increase with time. When a sufficient number of Putin’s coalition privately turn against the war, this will pressure Putin to end the war or risk his position of power.





Ukraine, say, accepts Russian sovereignty over Crimea and parts of the Donbas. In turn, Putin accepts Ukrainian independence and its right to deepen ties with Europe. But it is not beyond the realms of plausibility that such a scenario could emerge from the wreckage of a bloody conflict. Perhaps more likely is that this develops into a protracted war.







Most U.S. training takes place at U.S. military bases in Germany. Ukrainian replacement troops go through combat training on Feb. 24 in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine. And even though the fall of the Soviet Union was notable for its lack of bloodshed, many in Ukraine refer to today's conflict as a true "war of independence." The U.S. Congress approved four separate spending bills for Ukraine in the past year totaling $112 billion. The rest is funding the Ukrainian government (this helps pay the salaries of Ukrainian government workers) and humanitarian aid to help the millions of Ukrainians who have been driven from their homes.











  • What are some of the possible scenarios that politicians and military planners are examining?








  • If he was, perhaps, facing defeat in Ukraine, he might be tempted to escalate further.








  • At this point, Russia could call for a ceasefire to retain what it has, and run a defensive campaign to consolidate its battered military.








  • Almost three months on, the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction.








  • In explaining why, Reiter pointed to “the heavy diplomatic costs of [Russia] using nuclear weapons, the lack of military utility of using nuclear weapons,” and the risk that such use would “increase NATO military involvement” in the war.










Still, Russia and Ukraine have now been fighting for more than three months. Both have suffered heavy losses and each knows that the war could drag on for years at a staggering cost without either achieving its aims. The Russian president does control additional chunks of Ukrainian territory, but he may hope to find some way of easing Western sanctions and also avoiding being wholly dependent on China.