Talk:Weapons

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Red force weapons

The Weapons page only show the weapons for the west side. Andreas

Yes, I only have understanding of the US weapon systems. Someone else has to fill in the side of Russia.
Do you know the weapon systems of the red side? Kassie 16:37, 8 May 2007 (CEST)
Nope, but maybe we can add something using open sources on the net? Andreas 12:05, 9 May 2007 (CEST)
Kassie: No problem. Just align it with game experience.

4 gunships, 4 tables

Do you think that we should make four tables, one for each of the original playable helicopters, or just list all the weapons for each side? i.e. the quantities differ between the Apache and Comanche. Andreas 12:05, 9 May 2007 (CEST)

No, absolutely not [making 4 tables]. I can write down what I mean, but I prefer to show you. Look at the article. Kassie 22:38, 9 May 2007 (CEST)
That's great Kassie! I will try to fill in the blanks soon. Andreas 22:57, 9 May 2007 (CEST)
Here's what I like to show you. About the load out table, it's a database in basic. You can see it 2 ways: (1) by weapons (Which weapons uses which gunship?), or (2) by gunship (Which gunship uses which weapon system?). I think the latter makes more sense.
Fun was, that your response was at 22:57h, while my current time was still 22:56h. Just funny.
I hope you can work a bit with tables. I go for sleep now, see you tomorrow. Kassie 23:06, 9 May 2007 (CEST)

weapons table

Kassie: We need to add "primary target" to the weapons table. Like, stinger: helicopter / fighters.

Kassie: Done!

specifications

Andreas: Should we use open sources when adding things to this page? I'm asking because the EECH manual says one thing, and fas.org another. Doesn't WUT files change the ranges of some weapons as well? Andreas 13:54, 10 May 2007 (CEST)

Kassie: The goal of this community is to make EECH as realistic as possible. I suggest we should go with the most truth telling article. I doubt EECH manual is that.
About WUT files, same thing. New WUT files are an update of the previous one, tend to make this game as realistic as possible. If you have good thoughts about adjusting a value, I suggest you should do it or by bringing it up to the boards.
Andreas: I take the Vikhr missile as an example, the manual says it has a range of 6.000 metres and fas.org 10.000 metres. Quite a big difference. I don't know what the latest WUT says.
Kassie: I hope 10.000. If not, it should be changed to this value.
Andreas: But I agree with you that we should try and make EECH as realistic as possible. But since this is a simulator we also has to, to som degree only, take the gameplay factor into account so that one system doesn't become to superior over the others.
Kassie: IMO, realistic numbers overrule gameplay balance factor.
Andreas: But there is one small problem. The manual doesn't name exaktly which model of the Vikhr missile its models as there seems to be several of them.
Kassie: The realism of current data overrules old manual data.
Andreas: We need to get the WUT maintainers attension to this so that one number listed here and vice versa will be used ingame, just to make sure.
Kassie: I suggest we should start a WUT topic at SimHQ. Arneh made the last WUT files, with his releases. Gotcha is "da man" for WUT files. If those 2 guys agree, a new WUT file born. I have upload permission and can post in the files directory of EECH Central. Next to this weapons article, I want to get busy with the WUT article and my HOTAS (Saitek X-45) configuration. I suggest when changing values, make sure to write down proof of your adjustments. Kassie 23:23, 11 May 2007 (CEST)

nice pictures

I'm looking for some nice in game shots of the missiles. Do you have any idea how to make them? Also, looks great what you'd made! Kassie 20:07, 10 May 2007 (CEST)

Thanks! By pressing F7 (or F8) you trigger the weapon camera. After a launch you should then be able to pan around using the mouse and take a snapshot. Andreas 22:15, 10 May 2007 (CEST)
Doesn't for me. Can you try and report if it works for you. Thanks, Kassie 23:09, 11 May 2007 (CEST)

design

Andreas: Is it possible to make the left most table row in each table have equal width? Andreas 10:47, 11 May 2007 (CEST)

Kassie: I don't understand.