Difference between revisions of "Ukraine war Countdown has begun to end of Putin say Kyiv officials"

From EECH Central
Jump to: navigation, search
(Created page with "<p>But a couple offered scenarios for what such a settlement could look like, portraying them as more guesswork than predictions. Persuading countries in regions such as Afric...")
 
m
Line 1: Line 1:
<p>But a couple offered scenarios for what such a settlement could look like, portraying them as more guesswork than predictions. Persuading countries in regions such as Africa and the Middle East to deny Russia its imperial schemes will require a major shift in how the United States and its allies describe the stakes of the war and even in how they articulate their broader worldview, Hill argued. Rather than framing the war as a struggle between democracies and autocracies or East versus West, U.S. and European leaders should make the case that the Kremlin, in its thirst for empire, has “violated the UN Charter [and] international laws” that keep other countries safe as well. “If leaders explain the stakes and the costs, this is a manageable burden,” he told me.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>24 territory as they can get, force Putin to the bargaining table, and then ultimately Ukraine would have to compromise somewhat on issues like Crimea and portions of the east and arrange for solid security guarantees going forward,” Smith told Defense News in a phone interview. The Ukrainian General Staff says its forces have repelled Russian attacks near Avdiivka itself, as well as from settlements to the north west, south west, and directly west of the town. Napoleon, Hitler and Stalin all had to keep their armies moving in the face of a steppes winter, and now - his invasion going backwards on the ground - Vladimir Putin is digging his forces in for the winter to await a new Russian offensive in the spring.</p><br /><br /><h2>When and how might the war in Ukraine end?</h2><br /><br /><p>Russia has also made advances north east of Kupiansk, north of Bakhmut, and south west of Avdiivka, according to the latest ISW assessment. The ISW does note that Russia's advances might be the result of Ukrainian forces withdrawing to "more defensible positions" near Robotyne. It is almost two years since Russia's invasion but the situation on the ground has changed little in recent months - despite Ukraine's counter-offensive, which began in June.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Meanwhile, sanctions on Russia would remain; its economic and military strength would continue to erode; and Putin could only watch as his frozen assets abroad are drawn down to pay for Ukraine’s reconstruction.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>I expect Melitopol will become the key battle point in the coming months (maybe weeks).</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Then Henry Kissinger, a former secretary of state, said negotiations should start within two months to avoid “upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome”.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Ukraine is a democratic country aggressively pursuing European integration.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The war has already become very costly for the oligarchs and these costs will only increase with time.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>In explaining why, Reiter pointed to “the heavy diplomatic costs of [Russia] using nuclear weapons, the lack of military utility of using nuclear weapons,” and the risk that such use would “increase NATO military involvement” in the war. Timothy Snyder, a historian of Eastern Europe at Yale, told me he stands by an assessment he made in October in which he similarly argued that a Russian nuclear detonation was highly unlikely. “We are drawn to this scenario, in part, because we seem to lack other variants, and it feels like an ending,” he wrote at the time. More likely, Snyder argues, Putin is trying to instill fear in order to buy his military time and undermine international support for Ukraine. That effort would require extensive U.S. involvement as well, and could serve as a springboard for China to assert itself as a diplomatic power, as the United States did during peace talks after World War I.</p><br /><br /><h3>The Next Global War</h3><br /><br /><p>After a year in which both sides looked forward to military advances and were disappointed, this new year starts with expectations so low that the only way we can possibly be surprised is by developments that get us closer to a resolution. By the end of July there was no point in pretending that all was going well. One problem is it leads to playing down the benefits the US has always got in its conventional operations from superior firepower.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Given what’s at stake — not just the survival of Ukraine but of the whole international order — that would be risky. It would make success dependent on events we cannot predict or control, including on the outcome of elections in Western countries, including the United States. And while we have no right to tell Ukrainians to stop fighting before their country is whole, we also have no right to expect them to keep fighting at any cost. The first and most obvious way for Ukraine to win would be for its armed forces to take back all the territory Russia has unlawfully seized since its first invasion in 2014 — including Crimea.</p><br /><br /><h2>On the offensive this spring</h2><br /><br /><p>So my self-assessment question is not whether my predictions are right, because I made few that were firm, but whether much happened that would surprise a regular reader of these posts. The invasion plan broadly consists of a three-pronged line of attack, from the north, east and south, using artillery and missile strikes to soften resistance before following up with infantry and tanks. Putin would ideally like to see the Zelensky government quickly capitulate and surrender, to be replaced by a Moscow-leaning puppet government. Such [https://diigo.com/0vb9sq https://diigo.com/0vb9sq] would likely mean giving up parts of Ukraine to Russia. America, Europe and Ukraine have to keep adjusting their positions according to what each thinks the other will accept. “The Ukrainians are negotiating with their Western partners as much as, and probably more than, they’re negotiating with the Russians,” says Olga Oliker of the International Crisis Group, a think-tank.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>"This is a massive wake-up call for Europe," says Tobias Ellwood, MP and chairman of the UK Parliament's Defence Committee.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The result is a protracted struggle that gradually lessens in intensity as the Russians run short on ammunition and resupply to Ukraine eases.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>It's become clear that the counteroffensive won't produce quick results and that success — however that might be measured in terms of retaking Russian-occupied territory — is not guaranteed.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Defense News spoke with national security analysts, lawmakers and retired officials, asking each how the conflict could end.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>This is partly because of the uncertainties surrounding the level of US and European support, a matter to which I will return in my conclusion. But it was largely because of the meagre returns from Ukraine’s intensive efforts to liberate more territory. That could end up looking something like the Korean peninsula, with a demilitarised zone between Ukrainian and Russian-controlled territory, or a grinding perpetual conflict that flares up and down, eventually resulting in an uneasy truce. Some observers have suggested that continued defeats on the battlefield might result in Putin’s downfall. After all, Russian defeats in the Crimean War in the 19th century, and losses to Japan and in Afghanistan in the 20th century, all catalysed profound domestic changes. A protracted and costly World War I helped usher in the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.</p><br /><br /><br /><br />
+
<p>The news from the battlefield, the diplomatic noises off, the emotion of the grieving and displaced; all of this can be overwhelming. So let us step back for a moment and consider how the conflict in Ukraine might play out. What are some of the possible scenarios that politicians and military planners are examining? Few can predict the future with confidence, but here are some potential outcomes.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>A senior European Union official has denied member states are discussing financial coercion to force Hungary to agree on financing for Ukraine.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The rest is funding the Ukrainian government (this helps pay the salaries of Ukrainian government workers) and humanitarian aid to help the millions of Ukrainians who have been driven from their homes.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The former Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain has long been criticised for describing Germany's attempted annexation of Czechoslovakia in 1938 as "a quarrel in a far-away country between people of whom we know nothing".</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Most ominously, its troops began encircling a large portion of Ukraine’s battle-tested, best-trained forces in Donbas where besieged towns like Sievierodonetsk, Lysychansk, Lyman, and Popasna suddenly hit the headlines.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>But another McCarthy concession — a procedure allowing 218 members to force a House floor vote on any bill — could present an opportunity for pro-Ukraine Republicans and Democrats to pass additional funding for Kyiv.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>American leadership has so far been largely united in their support for Kyiv.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>I spoke to Guardian foreign correspondent Luke Harding in Ukraine about the current situation and what to expect from the coming months. Beyond the obvious dangers of a nuclear plant being shelled, there is also anxiety that Russia is trying to connect the facility to the grid in Crimea. If this happens, it’ll be the first time that one country has stolen a nuclear reactor from another. The war has already become very costly for the oligarchs and these costs will only increase with time. When a sufficient number of Putin’s coalition privately turn against the war, this will pressure Putin to end the war or risk his position of power.</p><br /><br /><h2>Invasion of Ukraine</h2><br /><br /><p>A prominent war expert says the US is on the verge of lessening its support for, or even withdrawing from, NATO - with potentially catastrophic consequences for Europe. "The document referred to in the Financial Times article is a background note written by the secretariat of the council under its own responsibility which describes the current status of the Hungarian economy," the statement by the senior EU official said. A senior European Union official has denied member states are discussing financial coercion to force Hungary to agree on financing for Ukraine. Instead, he argued, there could be more “hybrid strikes” or “hybrid cyber-attacks” outside of Ukraine. But as the fighting goes on, that idea is progressively seeming less likely, despite what Droin calls “miscalculations,” such as a missile hitting Poland in November.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>During President Putin's marathon state address on Feb. 21, he accused Western countries of attempting "to deprive Russia of these historical territories that are now called Ukraine," making war the only way to "protect the people in our historical lands." [https://barlow-larsen.blogbright.net/jeff-glors-departure-from-cbs-news-exploring-the-reasons https://barlow-larsen.blogbright.net/jeff-glors-departure-from-cbs-news-exploring-the-reasons] were approved when both the House and the Senate were controlled by Democrats. Some Republicans are saying the U.S. should stop funding Ukraine. Democrats in Congress overwhelmingly support aid for Ukraine, and most Republicans do as well. "We want peace around the world," 70-year-old Kyiv resident Nina Albul recently told my colleague Hanna Palamarenko, "but we also want the world to know that it's okay for enslaved people to fight back." According to a poll by the independent Razumkov Centre, a majority of Ukrainians said they believe Ukraine is "heading in the right direction" in light of the war.</p><br /><br /><h3>Government activity</h3><br /><br /><p>However, what was not apparent to Russia until the fighting began is that the Ukrainian people are far more willing to fight than they anticipated. According to this approach, wars will end when the problem that caused the war is resolved by fighting on the battlefield. How long the fighting will last and the form it takes depends on the extent and type of the problem. When Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, I was easing my way into a new job and in the throes of the teaching year. I spend most of my day poring over multiple newspapers, magazines, blogs, and the Twitter feeds of various military mavens, a few of whom have been catapulted by the war from obscurity to a modicum of fame.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>To be sure, a lot happened in the intervening years that could have changed the direction of what followed.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>But many experts I turned to were not seriously concerned about such an outcome.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>It implicitly means continued backing for Kyiv, as a future in the EU for Ukraine would be impossible with a full-blown victory for Russia.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>Instead, over the past year Ukrainian forces have consistently and successfully pushed back the invading troops. As long as there is no direct conflict between Russia and Nato then there is no reason for this crisis, bad as it is, to descend into a full-scale world war. They are feeling distinctly nervous that Russian forces might not stop at Ukraine and instead use some pretext to "come to the aid" of the ethnic Russian minorities in the Baltics and invade.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Almost three months on, the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction. Russia has suffered a series of significant military setbacks that make any victory for them look a much more distant and difficult prospect – but a swift win for Ukraine doesn’t look likely either. As Ukrainian forces continued to hold off Russian advances on Kyiv, President Biden traveled to Brussels on Wednesday for an emergency meeting with other NATO leaders to discuss how to respond to Russia’s assault and help the 3 million Ukrainians who have fled the country.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>What comes next for Ukraine could be bleak, these experts say, with many expecting a long and drawn-out conflict, noting that even in the most positive scenario — that Russia withdraws its troops and Ukraine remains a sovereign nation — Europe is unlikely to return to the prewar status quo.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>In the meantime, NATO countries "would likely provide covert but very robust defensive assistance to the Ukrainian resistance."</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Ditto the devastation it continues to create in some of the world’s poorest countries like Kenya, Ethiopia, Somalia, and Yemen.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>The endgame would have to come from the gradual destruction of the Russian economy over a period of two or three years.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Ukraine, say, accepts Russian sovereignty over Crimea and parts of the Donbas.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>A Ukrainian victory means different things to different people. To some it is pushing Russia back to the territories it controlled before the start of the invasion; for others it’s about pushing it back to the pre-2014 borders, before Russia annexed Crimea. On the one hand, the Russian invasion has “essentially stalled,” in the words of U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, and has so far failed to fulfill any of President Vladimir Putin’s major objectives. But on the other, having lost more than 7,000 of his troops, according to the U.S. government, Putin may decide to escalate his bombing campaign, which has already left parts of Ukraine in ruin and, at a conservative estimate, more than 900 civilians dead.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Emory University’s Reiter listed two main reasons for the lack of appetite in Ukraine for any negotiations that would mean accepting the loss of territory. “The war has been so absolutely brutal that they’re fearful of what will happen in territories handed over to Russia,” he said. Unlike in the case of Serbia, experts do not foresee a scenario in which the US-led Western alliance would actively attack Russia. Despite Ukraine’s gains against Russia, experts believe a frozen conflict or painful truce is most likely. While the deal is essential for Ukraine’s economy, it is also beneficial for Russia – so it’s not simply an olive branch from the Kremlin.</p><br /><br /><ul><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Earlier this month, its civil defence minister told a defence conference "there could be a war in Sweden".</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Often hard to attribute, these could target banks, businesses, individuals and even critical national infrastructure.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br />  <br /><br /> <li>Since the counteroffensive was launched in June, only a handful of villages have been recaptured.</li><br /><br />  <br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br /></ul>

Revision as of 20:20, 18 April 2024

The news from the battlefield, the diplomatic noises off, the emotion of the grieving and displaced; all of this can be overwhelming. So let us step back for a moment and consider how the conflict in Ukraine might play out. What are some of the possible scenarios that politicians and military planners are examining? Few can predict the future with confidence, but here are some potential outcomes.











  • A senior European Union official has denied member states are discussing financial coercion to force Hungary to agree on financing for Ukraine.








  • The rest is funding the Ukrainian government (this helps pay the salaries of Ukrainian government workers) and humanitarian aid to help the millions of Ukrainians who have been driven from their homes.








  • The former Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain has long been criticised for describing Germany's attempted annexation of Czechoslovakia in 1938 as "a quarrel in a far-away country between people of whom we know nothing".








  • Most ominously, its troops began encircling a large portion of Ukraine’s battle-tested, best-trained forces in Donbas where besieged towns like Sievierodonetsk, Lysychansk, Lyman, and Popasna suddenly hit the headlines.








  • But another McCarthy concession — a procedure allowing 218 members to force a House floor vote on any bill — could present an opportunity for pro-Ukraine Republicans and Democrats to pass additional funding for Kyiv.








  • American leadership has so far been largely united in their support for Kyiv.










I spoke to Guardian foreign correspondent Luke Harding in Ukraine about the current situation and what to expect from the coming months. Beyond the obvious dangers of a nuclear plant being shelled, there is also anxiety that Russia is trying to connect the facility to the grid in Crimea. If this happens, it’ll be the first time that one country has stolen a nuclear reactor from another. The war has already become very costly for the oligarchs and these costs will only increase with time. When a sufficient number of Putin’s coalition privately turn against the war, this will pressure Putin to end the war or risk his position of power.



Invasion of Ukraine



A prominent war expert says the US is on the verge of lessening its support for, or even withdrawing from, NATO - with potentially catastrophic consequences for Europe. "The document referred to in the Financial Times article is a background note written by the secretariat of the council under its own responsibility which describes the current status of the Hungarian economy," the statement by the senior EU official said. A senior European Union official has denied member states are discussing financial coercion to force Hungary to agree on financing for Ukraine. Instead, he argued, there could be more “hybrid strikes” or “hybrid cyber-attacks” outside of Ukraine. But as the fighting goes on, that idea is progressively seeming less likely, despite what Droin calls “miscalculations,” such as a missile hitting Poland in November.







During President Putin's marathon state address on Feb. 21, he accused Western countries of attempting "to deprive Russia of these historical territories that are now called Ukraine," making war the only way to "protect the people in our historical lands." https://barlow-larsen.blogbright.net/jeff-glors-departure-from-cbs-news-exploring-the-reasons were approved when both the House and the Senate were controlled by Democrats. Some Republicans are saying the U.S. should stop funding Ukraine. Democrats in Congress overwhelmingly support aid for Ukraine, and most Republicans do as well. "We want peace around the world," 70-year-old Kyiv resident Nina Albul recently told my colleague Hanna Palamarenko, "but we also want the world to know that it's okay for enslaved people to fight back." According to a poll by the independent Razumkov Centre, a majority of Ukrainians said they believe Ukraine is "heading in the right direction" in light of the war.



Government activity



However, what was not apparent to Russia until the fighting began is that the Ukrainian people are far more willing to fight than they anticipated. According to this approach, wars will end when the problem that caused the war is resolved by fighting on the battlefield. How long the fighting will last and the form it takes depends on the extent and type of the problem. When Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, I was easing my way into a new job and in the throes of the teaching year. I spend most of my day poring over multiple newspapers, magazines, blogs, and the Twitter feeds of various military mavens, a few of whom have been catapulted by the war from obscurity to a modicum of fame.











  • To be sure, a lot happened in the intervening years that could have changed the direction of what followed.








  • But many experts I turned to were not seriously concerned about such an outcome.








  • It implicitly means continued backing for Kyiv, as a future in the EU for Ukraine would be impossible with a full-blown victory for Russia.










Instead, over the past year Ukrainian forces have consistently and successfully pushed back the invading troops. As long as there is no direct conflict between Russia and Nato then there is no reason for this crisis, bad as it is, to descend into a full-scale world war. They are feeling distinctly nervous that Russian forces might not stop at Ukraine and instead use some pretext to "come to the aid" of the ethnic Russian minorities in the Baltics and invade.





Almost three months on, the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction. Russia has suffered a series of significant military setbacks that make any victory for them look a much more distant and difficult prospect – but a swift win for Ukraine doesn’t look likely either. As Ukrainian forces continued to hold off Russian advances on Kyiv, President Biden traveled to Brussels on Wednesday for an emergency meeting with other NATO leaders to discuss how to respond to Russia’s assault and help the 3 million Ukrainians who have fled the country.











  • What comes next for Ukraine could be bleak, these experts say, with many expecting a long and drawn-out conflict, noting that even in the most positive scenario — that Russia withdraws its troops and Ukraine remains a sovereign nation — Europe is unlikely to return to the prewar status quo.








  • In the meantime, NATO countries "would likely provide covert but very robust defensive assistance to the Ukrainian resistance."








  • Ditto the devastation it continues to create in some of the world’s poorest countries like Kenya, Ethiopia, Somalia, and Yemen.








  • The endgame would have to come from the gradual destruction of the Russian economy over a period of two or three years.








  • Ukraine, say, accepts Russian sovereignty over Crimea and parts of the Donbas.










A Ukrainian victory means different things to different people. To some it is pushing Russia back to the territories it controlled before the start of the invasion; for others it’s about pushing it back to the pre-2014 borders, before Russia annexed Crimea. On the one hand, the Russian invasion has “essentially stalled,” in the words of U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, and has so far failed to fulfill any of President Vladimir Putin’s major objectives. But on the other, having lost more than 7,000 of his troops, according to the U.S. government, Putin may decide to escalate his bombing campaign, which has already left parts of Ukraine in ruin and, at a conservative estimate, more than 900 civilians dead.





Emory University’s Reiter listed two main reasons for the lack of appetite in Ukraine for any negotiations that would mean accepting the loss of territory. “The war has been so absolutely brutal that they’re fearful of what will happen in territories handed over to Russia,” he said. Unlike in the case of Serbia, experts do not foresee a scenario in which the US-led Western alliance would actively attack Russia. Despite Ukraine’s gains against Russia, experts believe a frozen conflict or painful truce is most likely. While the deal is essential for Ukraine’s economy, it is also beneficial for Russia – so it’s not simply an olive branch from the Kremlin.











  • Earlier this month, its civil defence minister told a defence conference "there could be a war in Sweden".








  • Often hard to attribute, these could target banks, businesses, individuals and even critical national infrastructure.








  • Since the counteroffensive was launched in June, only a handful of villages have been recaptured.